tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1900800634479346046.post4150683495807383314..comments2023-12-18T09:55:42.480-08:00Comments on What Sister Never Knew and Father Never Told You: No Defeat for Francis Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1900800634479346046.post-6718773607740318262014-11-01T20:00:52.807-07:002014-11-01T20:00:52.807-07:00Don't give up hope A lot of the American bis...Don't give up hope A lot of the American bishops are climbing aboard the Francis train there are others, however, who are proteges of Cardinal Burke (Finn, Cordileone, et al) who are betting that after Francis there will be a swing back and that Burke, like Lazarus, will emerge from the grave to which he has been consigned we will see But enjoy the sunshine of Pope Francis while it lasts Consolaminihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09278560268489520757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1900800634479346046.post-11553674908669593712014-11-01T18:50:48.847-07:002014-11-01T18:50:48.847-07:00I certainly hope Pope Francis makes much needed ch...I certainly hope Pope Francis makes much needed changes. He's not likely to get cooperation from many American bishops, due to JPII and BXVI stacking the deck in favor of their preferred company men. khughes1963https://www.blogger.com/profile/16118365554189078448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1900800634479346046.post-6622661447765539852014-10-23T20:10:26.309-07:002014-10-23T20:10:26.309-07:00well, to begin with, their take is wrong because i...well, to begin with, their take is wrong because it ignores the fact that all three controversial paragraphs carried with strong majorities--just not the 2/3 majority needed to pass as a "consensus" which is what the Synod rules require. The majority of the bishops, a large majority of the bishops, favored the statements about inclusivity of gay Catholics and exploring options to admit divorced and remarried people to the sacraments, The reactionary strategy is to create the illusion that the majority of the bishops "stood their ground" against Francis, Kasper et al on the side of change. It is the "Gideon Strategy" that I mentioned of creating the illusion of overwhelming numbers in spite of the fact that you represent only a small fraction of the numbers of your foes. Watch and see--Francis will use various homilies and talks this upcoming year to redefine his case and make it more difficult to argue against. He probably won't use Card. Kasper as much but do more himself. He also may get Wuerl, Nichols, and others to drum up support in various bishops' conferences. And I expect he will reshuffle the deck. It is all but official that Burke is out. Pell will probably stay, especially as he plays a key role in the Bank reform, but Francis will have a talk or two with him--not to win him over, but to make sure Pell doesn't lead an opposition. Francis will appoint those who support his position to key roles in the upcoming synod as he did in this one. I am not saying that it is all well and good. The wing-nuts are going to be screaming up and down this coming year, but if they attack Francis--as they have been doing--it will work against them as it will make it more difficult for bishops to oppose him in the Synod lest it look like they support the rebellion. The biggest danger is something happening to Francis as you can bet the next pope will be a step back onto more traditional ground--not all the way, but not out at Francis' frontier. I intend to write more on this over the coming weeks. Consolaminihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09278560268489520757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1900800634479346046.post-7275698811736411992014-10-23T17:48:58.205-07:002014-10-23T17:48:58.205-07:00My concern is that the Krazies are all happy about...My concern is that the Krazies are all happy about the outcome of the Synod. They think that they won; Mundabor and Rorate Caeli are on sugar highs. Why is their take on this wrong? If next year's Synod doesn't lead to the correct outcomes, what will be gained from the process?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com